So who built the best parts in these catagories? (copy and paste the eight catagories and fill in your answers) waytogo Diesel engine: Gas engine: transmission: drivetrain: frame: suspension: Exterior: Interior:
Diesel engine: Cummins ISB/ISBE Gas engine: 6.0 364ci GM Vortec small block transmission: Allison 1000 drivetrain: Dodge 94-'02 D80/D60 frame:'05 Ford SD suspension: '03-current Dodge HD 4x4 suspension Exterior: '05 Ford SD Interior: Late GM of course.
Here is what i think.... Diesel engine:Cummins...I-6 still whoopin all the 8s(but both Ford & chevy are catchin up) Gas engine:Any v-10 rotfl ...not really,Id have to give the edge to the ol ford 460. transmission: chevy cant make a good std or auto any more,so thats out.(no,the name "allison" does not mean good or best.I have cooked 2 & nearly ruined another.) So.....how bout the Dodge 5spd?? drivetrain: 73-87+ 1 ton chevy (if not,why does EVERY offroad rig worth its weight run this package?) suspension:I think the new Chevys took a few tips from Caddilac...very 'non-truck like' ride. Exterior:Ford had this one,but the Chevys are growing on me Interior: Dodge is all plastic,ford looks like a work truck inside...Chevy took another tip from caddy. on this one too
My answers pertain to current offerings. Diesel engine: Dodge or GM if you have to tweak. If you leave it stock then it really doesn't matter much to me. They all pull great. Gas engine: Who cares? transmission: Auto - GM. Manual - Ford since Dodge is stoopid and dropped the NV5600. drivetrain: Ford (the rest of it makes up for the 6.0l) frame: Ford suspension: Ford Exterior: Ford Interior: Ford for simplicity and execution, GM for amenities (mostly)
Ok, I'll bite... Diesel engine: Flat out towing (like Hotshot) Cummins. Just plane good multi-use daily driver that's the most "fun", DMax. Gas engine: As said, who cares? transmission: Auto, there is nothing but Allison that I would want by choice. Manual NV5600 but it would need an after market clutch since none of the stocks are worth a darn. drivetrain: For daily driver, drag racing, towing, and typical uses, GM 2500HD and up is by far the best IMO. For off-road use and maybe bombed sled pulling, Ford or Dodge offerings with D60/D80, D60/D70, or best of all, the older GM king pin serviceable front D60 with your choice of late Sterling, or D80 rear. frame: late GM or Ford. Both are really strong and modern designs. suspension: GM 2500HD and up. Now, did you really think I would say anything else? Exterior: If we can go older, I love the look of my '02 2500HD Silverado. For new, the SD is the only decent looking truck IMO. Interior: GM again.
Diesel engine: Cummins Gas engine: 05 Ford 3valve V10 transmission:NV5600 or ZF6. Gotta go with the ZF6 now since NV is gone Drivetrain:Ford, for offering hubs on there trucks. Unit bearings still suck Frame: Ford Suspension: Ford/Dodge with Coil fronts/Leaf Rears in terms of comfort. 99-04 Ford for simplicity and strength. Exterior:Ford Interior:Chevy makes some damn comfortable interiors.
Diesel engine: Dmax. I would rank the Cummins as even, but the fact that I own the Dmazx pushes it over the edge. Gas engine: 8.0L GM. No replacement for cubic inches. transmission: Allison 1000, don't care about manuals in these trucks, honestly. I like the 6 speed in my Matrix though. waytogo drivetrain: I'll go with the Dodge if we're excepting the engine and trans. SFA, Dana 60 front? oh yeah. frame: Ford if only for the huge GVWR's for '05. suspension: I like both Ford and GM for different reasons. Exterior: The new Superduty is one nice looking truck, but I like my Chevy, maybe because it seems to be the one most people don't like. I sort of gravitate to the underdog. Interior: Again, the new Superduty has a nice interior, and some great features like the integrated brake controller, but I'm going with my Chevy. Bose rules.
Keep it coming guys, I'm finding your guys thoughts very interesting. Maybe in a week or so we can count which brand got the most "choice" in each catagory and figure out what the "perfect" pieced together "factory" truck would be. waytogo
Diesel engine: 05 LLY Duramax Gas engine: MPFI454 transmission: Ally 1000 drivetrain: GM 2500HD & up frame: GM 2500HD & up suspension: GM 2500HD & up Exterior: 2002 Chevy HD is awsome, the new 05 high hood is makin the new look, look better... Interior: GM LT package I have only owned one towrig in my life so I have no real comparison....
Diesel- Cummins ISB, A TON OF TORQUE and potential, maybe not the fastest but how often do you drag race towing your favorite toy? Gas Motor- the classic, Chevy 350! Tranny- TH400, with the 205 behind it its a tough combo to beat Drivetrain- 14 Bolt, Dana 60+ axles with the above mentioned tranny and T-case, so I guess GM gets that one Frame- Not enough experience with the new trucks, but I know the old Chevy frames flex to much for the body to take Suspension- I would have to say Dodge and the 05 SD take that one, coils up front rock! Exterior- Super Duties are big bad lookin trucks! So they take that. Interior- GM's are so very plush inside
Diesel- 6.oL ford or duramax gas- 8.1L transmission- Torqueshift suspension-Ford(ever seen a cheby w/ 3tons in the bed?) Frame- Ford-no doubt drivetrain- Ford appearance- FORD! interior- Chevy/Ford The wife's Suburb is the ultimate family road-tripper, but for all out work, my 7.5L ford has never been matched. I hope my 6.oL can keep up the reputation.
I'll throw my $.02 worth in. DIESEL ENGINE - 12V Cummins "B" series with a P7100 GAS ENGINE - 351W Ford with injection very stout for the cubes and well built. Did most every application with out complaint. TRANSMISSION - NVG-5600 hands down is just stout all the way around! NVG-4500 close second Muncie 465 old and out dated but as reliable as they come Allison is strong as can be with some aftermarket help TH-400 & C6 are out dated but very well built even in OEM state. TRANSFERCASE - NVG-271 with a bolt on rear yoke (FORD) AXLES - GM Dana 60 77-91 Ford Dana 60 85-91 ( or when ever the king pins went away ) Dodge Dana 60 89-93 because of the use of GM style bearing hubs Dana 80 rear axle with disc brakes and 4 pinion posi (2001~2002 Dodge ) FRAME - Ford Super Duty 99 on up. SUSPENSION - All depends on what is ordered on each truck Safe bet is most any SD Ford with the upgraded springs Dodge offered some stout spring packages in the 94-02 trucks if the right options were spec'd. EXTERIOR - 99 on up Ford SD , just a damn good looking truck ! INTERIOR - 98~02 Dodge or any 99 and up SD Ford . Each simple and comfty with out being to cushy. With all that out and typed I am actually a GM fan but you would not know it by this list....Ha,ha Tom
DIESEL ENGINE - 12V Cummins "B" series with a P7100 GAS ENGINE - 8.1L chevy TRANSMISSION - NVG-5600, Allison TRANSFERCASE - NVG-271 with a bolt on rear yoke (FORD) AXLES - GM Dana 60 77-91 FRAME - Ford Super Duty 99 on up. SUSPENSION - Fords new suspension EXTERIOR - new chevy INTERIOR - new chevy
Diesel engine: Dodge CTD600 Gas engine: Chevy Vortec 8.1 BB transmission: Dodge NV5600 for a manual, Allison for the auto drivetrain: Overall drivetrain, Dodge one ton with a NV5600 wins this one frame: Ford wins this one.. I don't really care for the hydroformed dodge frame suspension: Ford and Dodge tie this one.. both solid axle, and I thought they both rode about the same. Exterior: New 2005 Ford wins this one... I Really like the way they look.. But I also like the way my dodge looks. If it came down to it, and I was looking for a new truck now, Id probably go Ford. Interior: GM wins this one.. Barely. Ford is nice too, and as much as I hate to admit it, Dodge is lacking behind the other two as far as this goes. All in all, I couldn't be happier with my Dodge. I will be keeping my truck for a LONG time, at least 10 years, but when Im looking for a new truck in about 9 more years, then I will take a serious look at Ford. Scott
Diesel engine:CTD for strictly towing and longevity/reputation, Dmax for towing/DD Gas engine:GM 5.3 the thing just SCREAMS!! transmission:Allison or NV5600 if a stick drivetrain: 2nd gen Dodge HD (we need to wait and see how the new SD holds up.) frame: Not sure but I have always heard that dodges suck and that fords are the Best suspension: GM for comfort, Dodge for offroading (just check out the race truck on KOREPerformance.com Exterior:03' up Dodge HD w/ body colored grille, bumper and billet looking grille Interior: Definatly Newer GM, very plush and tons of room
Diesel engine: Cummins Gas engine: Big block: dodge V10; Small Block Chevy 350 transmission: Auto: Allison; Manual: NV5600 (but haven't read much on others) drivetrain: Dana frame: f550 suspension: dodge, for the 4 link coil front end Exterior: dodge, just wish they had a real crew with a long bed Interior: gm
Dang, dare i be the first to say it. Diesel engine: 7.3 powerstroke (longevity and reliability) Gas engine: Big block: GM 8.1 transmission: Automatic Allison drivetrain: 01 up ford superduties frame: Ford superduty suspension: toss-up Exterior: Ford Crew Cab dually Interior: Ford (very simple, nothing to break, not to mention plenty of room)
Whats the best from the big 3 Diesel engine: Cummins, Hands Down. Reliability, Power, And Cold Weather Starting is unmatched Gas engine: Older: GM 502, or 426 Hemi Newer: 5.7 Hemi, or GM 6.0 transmission: Muncie SM465 Found in many GMC/ Chevy trucks in the 80s Very low low gear and trust me, its indestructable drivetrain: Newer 1993-2005 Dodge and Ford. Pre 1993 all 3 were fairly matched frame: Ford Super Duty, Followed Closely by Dodge suspension: 02-05 Ford Super Duty, or Dodge 2500-3500 Exterior: 03-05 dodge Interior: Dodge Ram Larime
diesel... cummins 600 gas... chevy small block transmission... allison 1000 drivetrain... old chevys (when they still had solid front axle) now dodge 3/4 ton or 1 ton frame... i would think dodge is pretty good because it stood up to the baja 1000 w/ the kore suspension suspension... dodge for sure www.koreperformance.com exterior... new dodge slt silver w/ alluminum rims interior... chevy for sure... really comfortable and more room in the backseat than the dodge
I'm surprised none of yall have said Ford for interior. I'm not sure if it is only offered in Texas or something, but damn, them King Ranch package SD's are NICE inside!!!imp: