In "your opinion" who has the best auto tranny and describe "best" for you. This one should be good. opcorn:
The Allison is by far the BEST slush box out there..why? Because I own one and would never buy someting that is second:stir: opcorn:
GM Allison. Nothing more to see here guys, just move along. Steve, might as well close the thread, discussion is done... :stir:
You guys are full of it. The 47RE is hands down bullet proof and extremely reliable, even behind a seriously modded Cummins. Nuff said. waytogo After recieving full BOMBing upgrades from ATS, Suncoast, or DTT or course. rotfl In stock form the Allison, in full out Bombed, the 47RE.
Only if you compare the fully bombed RE to a stock Allison. Bomb them both, and the Allison still wins with less money invested. Look at the cost of a SC Lvl 5 for full boat ATS for either, and the Allison is cheaper (last I checked). Sorry, but dollar for dollar (as long as you ignore the initial option purchase price of $1k ) the Allison will always win. If you count the initial cost premium, it's probably a wash I would guess? But the Allison is dimensionally larger on all internal pieces (that I am aware of) so it theoretically wins anyway.
I was comparing a BOMBed 47RE vs. a BOMBed Allison and would say the 47RE is most proven simply because it has been modified the longest and is standing the most power. As for cost, thats a non issue for me since it doesn't matter if you have a GM or Dodge, you aren't going to swap in an allison because it costs less to bomb, you get what you get with each brand.
Ok, I guess I can give on those grounds, but I still say the bombed Alli is stronger, though your right, it has not been out there as long nore has it seen the ultimate torque that some of the Dodge guys have run through theirs, so no solid proof. But I didn't say anything about swapping, only that the Alli can handle more power dollar for dollar. Just a statement of fact (at least as far as I know it). The relevance is up to the reader...
Yes and I agree but the only time that matters is when a person is trying to decided which brand to go with, with the cost of BOMBing in mind. If you already have a Dodge, what it costs to build an Allison vs. your 47RE doesn't matter, because you have a Dodge opcorn: .
I would say it's at least as relevant to a thread on "best auto" as comparing relative strengths/limits/costs of Cummins vs. DMax vs. PS, or IFS vs. SFA, or any other "which is best discussion". It's simply another data point that people can mentally tally to draw their own conclusions about "best", but that doesn't mean they want or need to go out and get one...
I'd say Allison has been building auto trans that hold up to high torque behind diesel engines longer than Dodge or Ford.........:stir::stir:opcorn:imp:
Not in a GM light Duty pickup, infact, I think the 1000 series Allison was built specifically for GM and was not a previous design.
Ok, since you insist. Here is your answer. Who cares? How about those of us who don't *need* a truck with a large phalic symbol to compensate for areas in which we are lacking, nor do we *want* to ride around all day with our hand wrapped around the end of such a symbol... oke: :stir:
Which other manufacture has as much experience building auto trans to use behind diesel engines as Allison? Which other manufacture has as much experience building auto trans to withstand high torque output engines than Allison? If the 1000 series trans was built for the GM PU's wouldn't it give them a leg up on the compition?
I didn't say Allison doesn't know what they are doing ....I said the 1000 was a new design itself IIRC.
I'll bite. THose of us that don't want to deal with turbo lag care. Those of us that have better things to do than push an extra pedal and stick from stop light to stop light in California rush hour traffic care. For those of us that actually daily drive our trucks and don't tow with it 100% of the time care. For those of us that want a diesel powered truck that can get out of it's own way care. For those of us that prefer a tranny that is smart enough to manage shifting itself and letting us do something that is more important, care. imp: opcorn: