Yup, I sure did. And it's the only brand whose HD pickups are 100% different than their light duty trucks. Also the only brand whose HD pickups use the same frame as the heavier duty trucks that are turned into dump trucks, wreckers and so on.
Hey now, you REALLY don't want to get me started on IFS again do ya? Well DO YA!? Go ahead, make my day! (Nobody says it like Clint) rotfl rotfl
BTW, it's still technically an "LD" truck, even up to the 450 and 550 too I think. Not sure where it officially crosses over, but 650 I think? Not even 100% sure I got the numbers correct... Actually, I gotta give that to Ford. Very cool that I can pick up a F450 (and 550?) with a pickup bed, and I thought seriously about it when I bought my HD. Though it does come with the 6.0 and other things like the Ford interior that really turns me back. Something about those 19"(?) wheels and macho capability... <insert Tim Allen grunt>
I'm not a true anything guy. I buy what is best for me, and right now, in my opinion, the Dodge is the best truck on the market.
GM and the Duramax are better. You guys are just Pi$$ed cause you weren't smart enough to realize that when you got your trucks and now you can't give them away. LOL Pot Stirred and I am out.rotfl
As a matter of fact no it doesn't. I live in a perfect little oasis. My wife tells me so all of the time. rotfl All the new diesel trucks are equal in my eye. The each have their problems and also their strong points. Edit GM is still best imp:
Yeah, but we all know you drive a Dodge (ever wonder where the word "Dodgy" came from? rotfl ) and like the "wide wheel look" with shiny paint and billet grill stuff... so everyone knows your opinions are of no value... rotfl rotfl Just kidding Bobby; well, about everything but the wide wheel stuff anyway...
I agree Dodge definately has the strongest powertrain available. First off i have a 01 ctd longbed 4wd and after putting 100k on it the only way ill own another brand of truck is if someone else gets the CUmmins contract. My truck may not have the "luxury" interior of the chevy but hey i bought a truck to work with thats why i opted for the vinyl floors. ANyways lets look at front axles. Dodge has been putting the Dana 60 in the front for years. WHat does chevy/gm off a lame ifs front for their "hd" trucks. What about Ford u say? Not until the new 05's did they get rid of the Dana 50 and opt for the 60 and im not sure if thats available in the F250. As far as trannys go i will give it chevy for the nice allison but what can they offer a guy that likes to shift gears? The NV 4500 and 5600 are the best 5 and 6 speed trannys available without a doubt the only draw back is the almost 20 dollar a quart price tag for the synthetic fluid they require. Some might say that FOrd has a nice six speed but a friend of mine would argue against that since he seems to replace a tranny in 1 of his dad's 5 F350 every six months. So basically what i am trying to get at is that its not what manufacturers name is on the truck its the manufacturers' names on the parts that count. New Venture Gear, Dana Spicer, and oh yeah can't forget Cummins.
The D60 has been in the front of F350 and F250s since 2002. You're also making arguments about an older truck when it comes to axles and manual transmission. Dodge has not used Dana axles for a few years now, they use AAM axles, the same people that make the axles for Chevy. The Chevy IFS is plenty strong for what it does, it's not for everyone but it does do the job. Dodge doesn't even use the NV 5600 or NV4500 anymore, they went to a new trans from Daimler, I beleive. The ZF 6 speed in the Ford and Chevy is a very reliable trans, I've never heard of it having problems other than with the dual mass flywheel that's in the GM trucks. I'm not arguing that Dodge doesn't make a nice truck with a great engine, but it is not the best truck stem to stern hands down no questions asked like so many Dodge fans like to argue. The auto has had problems, even the NV4500 has had it's share of problems with the input going south. It's interesting that some people like to choose a narrow range of older model trucks and argue the benefits of those like they're still being made today. To me it appears that you own a particular brand and vintage truck and are rather biased by that fact.
Ditto what Shaggy said. Same as I would say, almost point for point... And I have a neighbor who would argue LOUDLY against the quality of the NV4500 in a *stock* CTD dually he had.
It's a second gen Cummins thing I guess...some of us that have 2nd gens find the newer 3rd gens hard to accept with their quiet Cummins engine and questionable interior. Most of us will compare anything that has been out or just came out of detroit against our 2nd gens because they are what we own and love. Our second gens may be "vintage" but really we are talking about trucks that are only a few years old.
